Andy Chat

Steve:

How would you feel if I said I could change your whole life in the next hour?

Andy:

I don't know how I would feel since that's ambiguous as to what you mean by that lol

I would firstly ask you what you even mean by change. Change can be good or bad.

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i got disconnected and lost the chats
AndyTheAnarchist
:(
SteveHein
ok - could u also do me a favor when ur done replying and copy the main chat starting from about the time u joined? and email it to me? i lost it all.
6:30 AM
AndyTheAnarchist
Why do you want it?
SteveHein
i like to analyze what pple say and write about it. : )

plus i like to show my gf. we talk about this stuff. we already talked about u for example!

how do u feel about being analyzed, written about and talked about? ha ha
6:35 AM
AndyTheAnarchist
Oh okay =)

I appreciate it.

It leaves room for improvement. I like hearing critics and whatnot haha.
SteveHein
ok

how would u feel if i said right now i can change your whole life in the next 60 minutes - assuming u can stay up that long ha ha
AndyTheAnarchist
I don't know how I would feel since that's ambiguous as to what you mean by that lol

I would firstly ask you what you even mean by change. Change can be good or bad.

SteveHein
ok

could u check my home page on my website the main one eqi.org and let me know how u feel about what u see.
7:00 AM
AndyTheAnarchist
I like it! Emotional intelligence being one of the main concerns and journal notes - like writings with screenshots. Nice. Also, I see my name at the top. That's a bit mind piquing but I'm sure that'll be explained shortly.

Also, I applaud you for helping so many people, but also empathize with you seemingly not getting an adequate amount of mutual help in return to your favors you've accomplished with so many others. I am sorry to hear that people steal/not credit you, and that is indeed a bit frustrating even for me that people do that.

ok thanks. do u have a paypal account?
AndyTheAnarchist
Why?
SteveHein
ha ha

refresh the eqi,org page plz

i promised everyone in the world i would explain why i was asking u that. so here is the explanation. but first. i want to say that i believe u are an exceptional person. i will explain that more later too. but now for the question about PayPal

I will post the answer on my home page.
7:05 AM
AndyTheAnarchist
I have. The difference is that there is now a " For Andy's replies, click here. " but it doesn't redirect anywhere when I click it.

SteveHein
ok i have updated

i havent made that other link about ur replies active yet. i am building a plan on the fly as they say. ad hoc or spontaneously.

brb
7:10 AM
AndyTheAnarchist
I don't think I have one. Sometimes I get little temporary visa cards to spend limited cash on via internet, but I think my mom has a paypal account. As long as I can create a paypal account free, I'd be completely willing to make one right now.
7:15 AM
AndyTheAnarchist
Woah.. You wanna send me money for the sake of donations? How much are you thinking along the lines of? That's incredible you wanna help me by sending cash my way, and I really appreciate that!
SteveHein
hmm im confused. did u think i want to send u money or that pple will just send u money if they want to -- pple who read my site?
7:25 AM
AndyTheAnarchist
Either or.

That's pretty cool that you can stream some people that go on the site

to redirecting them to donating to me lol

but yeah i was replying to the people seeing it and sending
SteveHein
k - well just to be clear the idea was for them to send it,not me ha ha but maybe i can send some to start things going, cuz i like u ha ha

ah ok i got u i think - u didnt mean that u thought i was gonna send it from my paypal to ur paypal, but instead just "redirect" - is that it?

just to be 100% clear...
AndyTheAnarchist
Yes.
SteveHein
ok then i dont have to send u any ha ha
unless nobody else does.

AndyTheAnarchist
But no, don't send any money to me directly from your own wallet. lol

SteveHein
hmm is that an order?

the "dont send..." bit i mean
AndyTheAnarchist
Well,
SteveHein
lets make one thing clear. im the one in charge here and i give the orders ha ha
AndyTheAnarchist
its more so a suggestion really. I'd feel bad if you sent money to me from your own wallet.

You've earned that money. Me? I hardly have.

lol mkay.
SteveHein
im messing with u but kind of serious too. i will explain ok?
AndyTheAnarchist
kk
SteveHein
k read this. and that is an order. an imperative. a command. ha ha

www.eqi.org/imperatives.htm

and give me ur feedback. plz. that is a request ha ha not an order but if u dont "comply" with my request I will burn your house down. but its your choice, ha ha get me?

im really messing with u cuz im pulling in stuff i know that u dont know yet. but it seems u are a fast learner.
7:30 AM
AndyTheAnarchist
Oh no,

I know this.
SteveHein
there is a video by a guy named nonstamp collector that talks about free choice...
AndyTheAnarchist
I have worded my terminology wrongly then.
SteveHein
ha ha ok
AndyTheAnarchist
I'm aware of that, sorry about that.
SteveHein
how do u feel about hugs?

cuz id like to send u one

and im gonna take a short break. move the fire, put some wood on it etc. and ill be back. in the mean time could u try to find the video on youtube by nonstampcollector about free choice. he starts with an example about a father telling his son he can choose what color to paint the room...
7:35 AM
AndyTheAnarchist
Sure, I'll look at it.

Also, hugs tend to be a bit uncomfortable to me. Any physical touching to express feelings seems a bit strange to me for the time being.
SteveHein
ok when u have time ths page explains "care bears" so maybe u'd prefer care bears or "cb"s http://eqi.org/brooke.htm

anyhow i wanted to send a hug of appreciation cuz i appreciate how u apologized for giving me that little "command" - and i wanted to say "apology accepted" : ) --- that is how i believe forgiveness and apologies "should" work -ie the natural, healthy way. someone apologizes sincerely (which might mean their awareness goes up actually) and the other person forgives and all is good in the world, so to speak.

SteveHein
k
AndyTheAnarchist
Care Bears seems to be a guise; masking the true action of actual hugging. It's almost sugar coating the term to make it seem more pleasant than it really is to be more accepting to oneself. I like to view the actuality of the situation, rather than the alternative terminology.
SteveHein
ok .. im kind of scared to send hugs tho since ur not totally comfortable with them
AndyTheAnarchist
Watched the video. I remember watching NonStampCollector earlier in my years when I first transitioned into Atheism, and was new to it.
8:00 AM
AndyTheAnarchist
I understand. Let's try virtual hugs another time once friendship builds, yes?
SteveHein
ok whar about ur parents btw? atheists? religious? how would u describe them? and how would they feel, do u think, about this idea i have of "streaming u money"

ok to the virgual hugs thing. makes sense.

: )

a smile for me is a hug lite ha ha

i assume thats ok 10 out of 10 with u
AndyTheAnarchist

8:05 AM
AndyTheAnarchist
They're not really religious, nor atheist. I suppose you can say moderate Christians. I've heard my dad say God is real, but then my mom arguing a substandard position of not believing in God merely for the reasons of suffering in the world.

They've never picked on me for my beliefs of being an Atheist. They have once for me being an Anarchist though.

Hmm, I have a Sister.

She's moved out

SteveHein
k

anything else?
8:10 AM
AndyTheAnarchist
mhm
SteveHein
well anyhow. im a bit worried ur getting sleepy. and i feel a bit guilty for keeping u up. if that is the case.
AndyTheAnarchist
No,

I wokeup a few hours ago actually ha ha

But there's more for sure, but I'll leave it at that I suppose.

If there's anything specific you wish me to elaborate on, I am willing to do so.
SteveHein
before i forget. could u plz download the pdf called emotional literacy from this link so we can talk about it sometime. cuz it has the basis of what i originally was thinking when i talked about changing ur whole life in 60 minutes http://www.core.eqi.org/free_pdfs_from_eqi.htm

ok i feel better im not keeping u up then. : )

what if u read that pdf now and we start talking about it? maybe even as u go, page by page or something

9:05 AM
AndyTheAnarchist
Interesting. On to Awareness now. These articulate very well all of my conceptions & understandings I've learned throughout self-knowledge and experience, though having them written down this well is nice to read through. The stimulus and response middle choice was nice to read about.

I'll be sure to share this with my girlfriend, and friends if you don't mind =)
SteveHein
id like it if u did share it.
9:10 AM
AndyTheAnarchist
Do you have a Facebook?

I'd like to keep in touch with you, because I'm occasionally on FDR, and usually never in Email.
SteveHein
im getting kind of sleepy... but before i go i wanted to mention an idea.. first, im not very good at marketing, self promotion. but i was thinking, if u want, u could kind of spread my ideas around and let pple know of our plan to send u money. maybe pple will support us/u. they will be supporting me if they read my writing, share, it, apply it. make the world a bit safer and saner.
AndyTheAnarchist
Yes of course! Will do.
SteveHein
nah i dont use fb. for a few reasons. i dont like it - and there are some reasons for that, like shallowness/fake friends etc and it also is costly. i dont have unlimited internet. so all the pics loading etc cost me money

how come u dont use email?
9:15 AM
AndyTheAnarchist
Ah, okay. I see.

Emails never been of an advantage or useful to me. I haven't really come into finding a reason in doing so.

In the past, people would really just use emails to talk. Nowadays we have more social media websites we use to communicate.
SteveHein
how would u feel about telling the ppl in the main chat room now what we are doing and asking them to have a look at my home page?

AndyTheAnarchist
I'll broadcast to them to check it out.
SteveHein
ah ok. any more comments. i like feeback/comments

ive updated the eqi home page btw

im a little afraid of their reaction when they see that i say parents are murdering teens via what is called suicide. and im afraid u dont fully agree with that, but idk what u think on that.

AndyTheAnarchist
Yeah. I don't think anyone on this particular site will give you hate mail, but many beneficial criticism, though I do agree with you on that.

btw how old are you, Steve? If I may know.

SteveHein
yeah here. just getting a quote

ok got the quote i was after an added it to my home page.

AndyTheAnarchist
kk

They seem to like your site

Duchess likes it anyways

i think

SteveHein
thanks for showing them..

: )

it is nice to see pple talking about my ideas.. if they arent personally attacking, judging labeling me etc

AndyTheAnarchist
How old are you, if you don't mind answering. I would like to get a visual identification on you. You aren't obligated to answer though.

AndyTheAnarchist
kk

Also.. I'm interested in your work/writings. How long ago did you start until you began online journaling and publishing?

AndyTheAnarchist
Ah okay, fair enough. So you've seen the evolution of computers and internet far longer than I myself have since I was born in 1997. Interesting.

Also, I'm downloading all the pdf's off your website and putting them in a document folder on my computer so I have something to read.

Also what's EQI stand for?

AndyTheAnarchist
I googled eq and it came up as Emotional intelligence. I see =)

AndyTheAnarchist
cool, okay.

Btw, Stefan Molyneux has call in shows every Sunday. You should think about calling in and talking to him about something if you have a particular question. --------- sh: see my writing on should